tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7993518718588952892.post3361837549977952708..comments2023-11-30T15:30:10.482+13:00Comments on True Paradigm: Is Arminianism a false gospel?bethyadahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08990677679970591625noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7993518718588952892.post-38038352344626976462014-07-20T09:47:17.454+12:002014-07-20T09:47:17.454+12:00See http://www.outsidethecamp.orgSee http://www.outsidethecamp.orgIconoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09194445665146586779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7993518718588952892.post-29014959584338347062013-01-21T22:32:40.984+13:002013-01-21T22:32:40.984+13:00Ellen, I can't speak for those churches. I thi...Ellen, I can't speak for those churches. I think one needs to be careful how apostasy is explained, and what works are.<br /><br />Paul says we are to work out our salvation. He also castigates the Galatians for starting well but not finishing well.<br /><br />Aside from the fact work is aligned with the Mosaic Law in Paul which is contrasted with grace in Jesus, I find it more helpful to think of working in the sense of <i>earning</i>, not in the sense of <i>doing</i>. So we have faith, trust in Jesus and his earning of our salvation which is imputed to us. We also have us doing the activities that God has prepared in advance for us. So nothing we do earns, but we cannot claim to be his followers if we refuse to obey which does involve doing.<br /><br />I think apostasy is a possibility and this relates to sin, but this will need a post of its own.bethyadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990677679970591625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7993518718588952892.post-83832516664137603572013-01-21T03:59:08.416+13:002013-01-21T03:59:08.416+13:00Here's where it gets a little muddy
> So d...Here's where it gets a little muddy<br /><br />> So does Arminianism require that man earn his salvation? No. The charge is false.<br /><br />I totally agree that Arminians believe that you can only get your salvation by faith.<br /><br />I grew up in a works-driven (Arminian) church. One needs to examine their stand on perseverance. Some don't believe that you can lose your salvation. Others believe you can lose it through apostasy.<br /><br />Still others teach that you can *lose* your salvation by sinning (doing evil works) or not doing enough good works. In other words, you have to keep what you were given by doing the words of the law.<br /><br />One Church of the Nazarene said, "Those who are regenerate and have received entire sanctification may sin and fall from grace, and unless they repent, they will go to hell."<br /><br />at that point it becomes "get it by faith, keep it by works.)MzEllenhttp://mzellen.comnoreply@blogger.com