Cain murdered his brother Abel and as punishment was forced to wander the Earth. In Genesis 4 we read,
This has been raised as a difficulty, along with Cain's wife, if all men descend from Adam and Eve and Cain was their first son. Genesis does not give an exhaustive history of the world but there is minimal difficulty if one pays attention to what is told us.
Adam and Eve had many more children, we are told of 3 but given their perfection and longevity one would presume they had very many children. And Genesis informs us of this,
These children would have had further children, even with a low annual growth rate of 5% starting from 2 people we get ~250 people within 100 years, ~1100 people by 130 years and ~35000 by 200 years though the growth rate was possibly much higher at that time in history.
Cain married a sister as many of Adam's sons would have. Even as late as Abram born 2000 years after creation we have a man marrying a half-sister.
A key to understanding Cain's comment about men wanting to kill him comes from Seth's birth. I think it unlikely Seth was Adam's third son.
And the LORD said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth." Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me." Then the LORD said to him, "Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.God's punishment meant that Cain was to wander the Earth and the inability for him to grow crops presumably was to help enforce this. The phrase "fugitive and a wanderer" (ESV) or "homeless wanderer" (NET) does not necessarily imply other people, other than his parents, existed at the time but the comment "whoever finds me will kill me" suggests there were other men. Later Cain builds a city which presumes several people lived there.
Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch. (Genesis 4:10-17)
This has been raised as a difficulty, along with Cain's wife, if all men descend from Adam and Eve and Cain was their first son. Genesis does not give an exhaustive history of the world but there is minimal difficulty if one pays attention to what is told us.
Adam and Eve had many more children, we are told of 3 but given their perfection and longevity one would presume they had very many children. And Genesis informs us of this,
The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters. (Genesis 5:4)Birthrates for fertile women are every 2 to 4 years depending on breastfeeding method. Given that Cain was likely conceived shortly after the Fall which probably within several days of creation and assuming a gap of 2–4 years and no multiple births Eve would have had 26–51 children by age 100. I do not know the average age of menopause of women who live close to 1000 years though 500 would not be unreasonable. Sarah lived to 137 and was post-menopausal sometime before 90.
These children would have had further children, even with a low annual growth rate of 5% starting from 2 people we get ~250 people within 100 years, ~1100 people by 130 years and ~35000 by 200 years though the growth rate was possibly much higher at that time in history.
Cain married a sister as many of Adam's sons would have. Even as late as Abram born 2000 years after creation we have a man marrying a half-sister.
A key to understanding Cain's comment about men wanting to kill him comes from Seth's birth. I think it unlikely Seth was Adam's third son.
And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and called his name Seth, for she said, "God has appointed for me another offspring instead of Abel, for Cain killed him." (Genesis 4:25)This passage shows us that Eve viewed Seth as replacing Abel, but Seth was born when Adam was 130:
When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. (Genesis 5:3)So the murder of Abel could have been as late as 130 years after creation with a conservative number of people being 1100. Some of whom Cain could have seen as a threat to his life. And even if Abel's murder was many years prior while many of the people were younger and the population fewer, the possibility of future attacks on Cain may have been on his mind.
Even as late as Abram born 2000 years after creation we have a man marrying a half-sister.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget about the Ptolemies. That's the Greek family that ruled Egypt for a while and where most of the men were named Ptolemy and many of the women Cleopatra. Their practice was to keep many of the marriages within the family. Father/daughter, brother/sister, mother/son. And yet they continued to rule Egypt and produced the premier astronomer of the ancient world. Their existence is a problem for all who believe the human race is more than a few thousand years old because any family that did that now would mostly give birth to folks like the banjo player in Deliverance (if they were lucky).
Thanks. Looked at this when researching for a Bible Study.
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ReplyDeleteThis view is based solely on the Christian belief that Adam was the first man and typical of Christians to ignore other facts presented in the bible to satisfy christian agenda. Why do you Christians ignore the very first chapter where God creates man and woman in his or as he says " let us create man in our image". Is it so hard for you to believe that God actually created a race of humans before Adam and eve and that Adam and eve came a period of time later ... Or do you just stick to what you want us to believe and pick and choose parts of the bible to your own satisfaction and brainwashing people as well as never acknowledging or just downright sayinh that any other portion or books that have been completely omitted from the bible are evil .... I would advise anyone reading my comment to do your own research on this subject and stop believing everything you are told .... Or believing everything they want you to believe .... The truth is in your face but you will never know by akways taking your pastors word.
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ReplyDeleteThe truth shall set you free! Seek it.
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